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Wait what are you saying, that there's one true religion and all the rest is just made up? How do you know?

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I am saying that a lot of what is called religious belief is an ignorant interpretation of an ignorant interpretation. For example, the bible has a mix of man made laws, poetry, stories that try to teach lessons, and other things having to do with culture, cleanliness, and more. How do I know? I don't go around making up stories about flying spaghetti monsters to make fun of religious beliefs. I try to understand the root cause of the belief instead of taking it at face value. In all things there is a root belief that may make sense or not, but we should at least try to understand the origin of different beliefs so we can discover how we got to where we are. Making fun of outdated beliefs only offends and does not result in obtaining additional knowledge.

2 points · 5 hours ago

That's cool, but can you address the question I asked?

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0 points · 2 hours ago · edited 2 hours ago

I thought I did. The one true religion is truth and you cannot simply dismiss the real truth because someone makes stuff up and says it's truth. There is no such thing as my truth and his truth and your truth.

BTW, lots of people have written new chapters of the bible and called it their own religion. Mormon, Muslim, etc. Knock yourself out. I won't believe you unless you've convinced me though.

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Religion basically promises eternal Disneyland in exchange for cash. All religion promises something it can't deliver or in the case if Christianity claims you have a disease and it has the cure.

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Not this again. No it doesn't. The fools and the ones who follow them believe that. And a lot of so called preachers of Christianity have no understanding of what they preach. Jesus never said that loving your fellow man was a cure for disease, that's all BS made up by preachers of ignorance. Find yourself someone that simply doesn't spout that BS.

The "disease" I as talking about is Original Sin or the idea that all people are inherently bad and need to be "saved" from their sins. That's the lie. That you are an evil person who needs a "savior," never mind that the only thing you're being saved from is the savior himself.

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I tend to agree about what you're saying. The whole idea of original sin is one of those concepts that been bastardized over the ages. Here's my thinking, original sin is no different than being a kid. Kids don't always know right from wrong and need to be taught things like manners and behaviors. Don't fight with your brothers, don't hang around with a bad crowd, be responsible, respect your elders, etc., those are the things that Jesus taught, not the nonsense these "religious" preachers spout. The worst part about religion is the misinformation put out by idiots claiming to be religious leaders.

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2 points · 1 day ago

That thing has got to be very heavy.

6 points · 1 day ago

Is that even legal?

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3 points · 1 day ago

Came to say the same thing. Don't they have to be a certain distance above the ground? Also, speeding and toll cameras would have trouble getting a picture.

🙋🏻‍♂️ Hi I was homeschooled... what the fuck?!?!?!

There are fucking mobile classrooms?!?!

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3 points · 1 day ago

Yup. Sometimes schools outgrow the building or have to shut down a section of the building for remodeling and such, so they wheel in mobile classrooms for a few months. I've also seen mobile bathrooms and mobile offices, usually in large construction sites.

2 points · 1 day ago

Something you might find on Gilligan's Island except it's not made out of bamboo.

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33 points · 1 day ago

No doubt that you took a picture, but I wonder why those concentric rings are so well defined. I would have expected a gradual gradient.

-5 points · 1 day ago

How about the same way birds do? Laying eggs and fertilizing them externally?

2 points · 1 day ago

Well that's interesting. I didn't realize that about birds. But frogs and fish have external fertilization.

I thought they solved practical problems.

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3 points · 1 day ago

I am a degreed engineer and nobody knows what engineers do anymore. Most people wouldn't know a real engineer from a "Sanitation Engineer", or Train Driver "Engineer". Its a shame.

I think dad is smart enough to play stupid.

The AND is supposed to separate the dollars and cents

-18 points · 9 days ago

The rules in the old testament were for the Jews and became obsolete with the coming of Christ. After he came the only real rules were do unto others as you would have then do unto you and love thy neighbor. People are so quick to throw these insane rules from the old testament out there as a way to discredit Christianity when that is not even how it is.

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-2 points · 9 days ago

Not exactly true. Only the ones relating to a savior. The rules in the old testament are cultural for a time where laws, religion, and even hygiene were the same thing. A "sin" is something that does not follow the rule. However, although many things in the old testament are obsolete, there is still something to be said about some of the values and stories. Some people that say that cherry picking is not really religion, just don't understand - faithfully following all the rules means not learning or growing. For example, for men that didn't bathe on a regular basis, circumcision made sense or infections would be rampant, but bathing made that practice obsolete and therefore not "sinful" to be uncircumcised.

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18 - And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

19 - Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

20 - And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

21 - For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

22 - Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

23 - All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

This passage is where Jesus tells his disciples not long after debating the Pharisees that what you eat is not important as it goes to your belly, not your heart. It is what you think, how you act, and what you say that is important because they come from your heart.

I take this passage to show that Christians don't have to follow the old testament eating rules so when it comes to that at least they aren't cherry picking but I do take your point and hasn't the Pope said something along the lines of the bible being written by mortal men and so is not the perfect word of God?

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I think we are on the same page. Here's another way of making my point, you still have to follow the 10 Commandments even though they are written in the old testament. By the way, I really hateth all that gargbageth that was writteneth that wayeth. It doesenteth maketh any senseth any moreth than spaking pig latineth in churcheth. It's not even the original language and only serves to distance the meaning from the substance. The interpretations are also not right - a shame.

You shouldn't have spilled gas on the deck.

they’re intentionally set up to make religious folks lose no matter what

To be honest, most of logical arguments will make religious people loose no matter what. In religion (especially in Abrahamic one) there is no place for logic.

That aside, the problem here is that you are either a follower of a specific believe or not. Say you are Catholic (this is the faith that I know best so I will use it as an example), you argue that bible is your source of knowledge and it was written by the god. Therefore it is either you take it as a whole or it is a faulty source of knowledge. However, there are two (that I am aware of) places to argue with my point:

  1. Bible is just set of stories which are to guide your morality, not a literal instruction. To this I have only one thing to say:

    If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

  2. I know that bible is not fully truthful this is why we need to reason on our own and pick what we think is right. Amazing, in that case you are not a Catholic but you created your own religion.

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A Catholic does not believe that the bible was written by God, it was "inspired" by God - a great deal of difference. It means it was written about beliefs related to God. A ton of things in the bible are stories that may have never actually happened but are intended to teach a point about good, bad, right, and wrong. There are also historical facts in the bible, but they are written by a perspective of ancient ignorance - like Astrology and Alchemy, nothing wrong with this, but you need to see through the ignorance to understand Astrology and Alchemy are not the true science to model life after.

There are actually 4 forms of writing within the bible. Historic, Poetic, Prophetic And Pentateuch

Not everything is meant to be read as historic. And not everything is meant to be read in the poetic or prophetic. Things get lost in literal translation if read this way. I.e. Most Christians that don’t know how to exegete the fucking book they model their lives after.

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This is what I meant. Well said.

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Stargate was a great movie and fantastic tv series

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Both SG1 and Atlantis are on every day on ElRey. Awesome series.

Obama hula doll

Gas is $2.43, I’ll take that risk

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And fresh peaches!

Wow. Check out the aftermarket air conditioner in the center. Or is that maybe a heater block?

"Hello, chief?, this is Max"

I don't... I don't think you know much about Scientology and how evil and exploitative it is.

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The same could be said about many religions, Muslim, Jew, Baptist, Protestant, even Catholic. I am not defending the exploitation, but I don't want to single out one of them. Anyway. I think this conversation is getting too long. Suffice it to say mocking people that pray to their own beliefs of God, like in the post, is wrong.

Scientology is in a different league of evilness, from the mistreatment of "sea org" members and the attempts to ruin the lives of critic s or anyone that leaves, to the attempts to infiltrate the us government. There is far more than I can articulate in one post.

One key difference from other religions is that while all large groups will have some corrupt and evil people, the evilness in Scientology is institutional and sanctioned from the very top. It's one thing for lots of priests to be paedophiles, it would be a completely different thing if the pope himself endorsed and encouraged paedophilla in the priesthood.

But, forget Scientology, what about cults like NXIVM that was recently in the news? That is 'spiritual', but surely you can't think it is immune to criticism?

I mock people that believe the earth is flat, and I don't see the belief in God to be much different. I'd like to know why you believe it should be, as if there is something I am missing, perhaps I need to adjust my behaviour.

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My belief in God is my own. It's something I sometimes struggle with but I am 53 yo and I've just experienced things in life that make me a believer. I cannot define it for you. The primary problem I see with the idea of God, and it's by far the biggest problem, is that there is so much misinformation, especially those who preach how "god" wants you to behave. I believe that we have somehow been "built" to be greater beings and put on earth to help each other be greater that just a bunch of monkeys - I don't mean scientifically, but consciously. I believe we have inherent knowledge of good and bad without the need for someone to tell us. Little kids know it's bad to lie and bad to kill and bad to steal without even being told. I also believe that we have been influenced by non earthly beings (aliens, angels, whatever). Jesus is a primary teacher, and someone that tried to teach us to take care of each other. If you study Jesus, historically, and not just what religious stories, you will find many things that tell you that mankind has been guided to love our neighbors and be thankful to God. Again, I can't pick a single proof, but to me everything points to a greater purpose. Here's one weird example, ever hear the term in the bible, "son of man?" it's used by the "divine" to address prophets and others. Who would say such a thing unless they were not of man. It's not "son of goat" or "son of George" he is being addressed as a member of humanity and it's coming from outside of humanity. I also don't believe we should be waiting for God to do things for us. The parable of the master and 3 servants is a good one that teaches that we need to make the best of what we have instead of waiting for God to do it for us.

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Unless it's purposely anchored that way, that's an accident waiting to happen. It should be knocked over.

A stretch limo truck?

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