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Genuinely asking - is there a difference between Deaf and deaf? You seemed to differentiate.

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Yes, there is. Give it a quick surf - the Wikipedia article on Deaf Culture is a good-enough place to start. In short, deaf is a physical condition; Deaf indicates a cultural connection.

Original Poster1 point · 18 hours ago

What does that mean?

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Denmark's International Study program, a fairly large operation in Copenhagen that caters to students coming from elsewhere. I was curious if that's the outfit administering your semester abroad.

Original Poster1 point · 18 hours ago

Ohhh no, I will be studying architecture with Auburn University at the Aarhus School of Architecture.

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Gotcha. I did a semester with DiS way back in the early 90s, and I loved it. We did a study trip to Aarhus, but it was still serious winter at that point - everything was gray, no fishing.

Did a trip through Jutland with my host family later in the spring though, and I definitely wished I'd brought a fly rod. The 3wt and 5wt should be about right so long as you're only thinking freshwater, and that's probably more grayling than trout.

I don't have any local suggestions - maybe somebody here will. I just surfed a bit and found more than I expected. You're right to be excited about it.

Also, this:

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We'll need a bit more information. Where do you usually fish? Small streams, big rivers, lakes, saltwater? What species do you usually chase? Do you prefer dries, nymphs, streamers?

Nobody mentioned the knife! That's a sweet little piece of (modern) Damascus. Is it from a major brand, or is it custom?

I had that FP Thundercloud backpack, and I just traded it off in exchange for a rolltop bag. I liked it, but it was a little too big for what I needed. That, and I'm not a fan of those zippers. I prefer rolltop bags, but that's just me. I found the pack to be very comfortable to wear, even when loaded up. I carried a rod in the side strap / rod carrier thing - seemed solid.

I hate to say it, but one of the answers is "it depends". I've seen steelheaders lined up on rivers in the Pacific Northwest who are close enough to tangle lines, and there are tailwaters in the Rockies with official paved parking areas for 40-50 cars where you won't find a space unless you come early.

Still, I think those are the exceptions. It's no surprise that waters with high fish concentrations will attract lots of anglers, and although anecdotes of annoyances and altercations in those well-known places tends to grab attention in online forums, there are hundreds of other miles of rivers where you can find decent public access, plenty of fish, and precious few fellow anglers.

For really out-of-the-way rivers, more than one car in my usual spot is too many. And in a few places, it isn't just the annoyance factor; some of my carping spots simply won't support more than one angler. The fish will shut down if you aren't super stealthy, and sometimes even if you are. It really isn't worth bothering for a few days if somebody else has already worked it over.

Most rivers in most places probably fall somewhere in between. If you can see the other anglers, you're probably a little too close. Try to go the opposite direction, and try not to be annoyed; understand that they're probably trying as well.

Saltwater is a whole different beast. Don't get me started....

Great fish! And I'm really jealous about the CXI trip....

In other news, try not to leave your Hatch soaking for too long. The first generation reels had some issues with leakage after prolonged immersion, and I never did quite hear about how long "prolonged" really meant. I'm careful to avoid dunking mine for too long, though.


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Original Poster1 point · 11 days ago

UPDATE: waiting on confirmation from one more sponsor, then the reboot of this contest will go live. Thanks for your patience!

The Flyfish Journal would like to help with prizes for winners. please pm me.

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Original Poster1 point · 1 month ago

That's very gracious, thanks! I'll be in touch.

For everybody else....yes, we've talked about rebooting the contest. Just need to carve out a bit of time to rework the parameters and round up prize donors again. Stay tuned!

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Hmm. I read a story ages ago about someone trying to catch an Amu Darya Trout. Are you anywhere near that drainage?

If you're in the Caucasus, you're west of there...right? I'd love to see more.... a bunch of surfing on which rivers actually hold fish. There's a ton of beautiful water up there that you're just positive should hold fish....but it doesn't. Glacier melt runoff - that pale blue water - carries fine sediment that coats the rocks and inhibits plant growth. No fish.

Surf hard to make sure you're targeting water that actually holds decent numbers of fish. Good luck! Let us know how you do....

Not OP, but I would have never known this, lol

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Don't ask me how I know. I just know.

No time at the moment to do research and build a detailed list - though that would definitely be fun - but the answer for me here is simply to buy the top-shelf gear of yesteryear used at bargain prices. I see your fourth bullet there, and I agree that getting a great deal from your great uncle or your buddy who gets guide deals shouldn't count here, but I'd argue that eBay and Craigslist and the Facebook BST groups and similar outlets should be considered fair game. Working through those posts doesn't require much more surfing than would be necessary to find deals from commercial sites, but it does require more patience to get great stuff at great prices.

Sure, the latest and greatest rods and reels hitting the market today might be a little better than the best stuff from a few years ago, but only a little. Very little, in my opinion. Incrementally so, I'd say, and most of the performance benefits available in the newer rod models can only be exploited by the very best casters and are only needed in the most extreme situations.

Loads of people bought the hottest rod on the market 5-20 years ago, fished it once or twice, then left it untouched until the next time they clean the closet. Find those deals and you can build out a quiver for US$1200 that'll compete with new gear that would retail for thousands more.

I'd also go 4wt / 6wt / 8wt. With the exception of carping, I don't think a drag is very important for the vast majority of freshwater situations - go cheap in that category and put money into a better saltwater reel. Buy your lines used or on clearance, too.

But I think we've had parts of this discuss before, haven't we? :-) It's a great question and a fun post, thanks....

Original Poster1 point · 1 month ago

I agree with you on principle. In fact, one of my most used rods is a 15yr old G Loomis GL3 9' 6wt that I got with an old school Lamson reel with extra spool and line off Craigslist for a fraction of what just the rod alone last sold for before it was discontinued. However, the purpose of this thread is to point out that one doesn't even have to be patient and get lucky with a one time deal. There are decent deals on competent rigs available even through normal retail channels. Also, I wanted to discourage those who just wanted to brag about getting a garbage can full of Sages and Winstons at an estate sale for $100, since that is irrelevant to others.

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Agreed. I do think you can get better deals on better gear if you're diligent and patient, but I completely agree with your point - we're really living in a golden age of affordable high-quality gear.

As for that guy with the bucket of rods, I'll offer him at least $200....

I usually wear a belt even if I'm not in waders - and ALWAYS if I am wearing waders - so for me the solutions have always been something to do with a holster, a dangle off the belt, or just tucking the net into the belt itself.

I think Smith Creek does a belt-based net holster, and I just saw one from Vedavoo. I haven't used either, but I do have a Vedavoo belt-mounted rod holster that's simple, bullet-proof, and brilliant. There are probably many more out there.

Grew up fishing in CO. Was checked maybe 2-3 times in as many decades.

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Likewise. And two of those were on the Gunny.

Were you on the upper Gunny or the lower? I’ve been fishing the lower Gunny for 10 years and guiding on it for half that and I’ve never even seen a game warden. Plenty of BLM rangers making sure everybody is signed in right and not making a mess of the river but that’s about all they do.

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At the pleasure park take out. Same place both times, same summer, same ranger. Twenty-ish years ago, though.

That's an Elk Hair Caddis, one of the most popular and effective flies of all time. At least in places where there are lots of caddis / sedges.

It's a Slumpbuster....attributed to John Barr. Great fly. Lots of tutorials on how to tie it available online.

I don't know of a single source for maps of the entire state - it's a rather big place, after all - but you can find detailed fishing maps of most of the famous rivers with a little hunting. A little quick Googling gave me these: the Henry's Fork, the Beaverhead, and Depuy Spring Creek. I'm sure there are similar resources for the other big names, but many of them are used mostly by boaters to figure out put-in / take-out spots, so it depends on what level of detail you need.

Shops on those rivers sometimes have maps of their own, but they're often proprietary and not easy to find online. Worth looking if you're targeting a particular watershed, though.

Honestly, when I'm planning a trip - especially if I'll be wading rather than floating - then I usually just scour Google Maps. If it's a place I've never been, then I also crawl through fishing reports, blogs, books, magazines, and whatever else, then try to tie those datapoints out to Google Maps, and I usually build a custom map that I download to my phone. It takes time, and you have to hak through a lot of out-dated information....but I'm a map geek who does that sorta thing for fun, and I think you develop a better sense of place and history when you have to cross-reference different sources. Just me, though.

Tight lines!

Brilliant. This is the litmus test / conversation starter that I've been needing to initiate a constructive (hopefully) debate with my parents.

37 points · 1 month ago

Not even close, baybee. They aren't even in the same order. Bass are perciformes, which you can easily identify by the spines on their fins, most prominently on the dorsal fin. Perciformes are the most numerous order of vertebrates and compose over 40% of all known fish species. The word perciformes simply means "perch-like" in Latin.

Tarpon are elopiformes, characterized by a unique set of bones in the throat. There are a tiny number of elopiformes extant today. The tarpon's taxonomic species name is Megalops and it belongs to its own family called Megalopidae of which there are only 2 species, one for the Atlantic ocean and one for the Pacific. Megalopidae are distinct from other families because of their unique swim bladder that enables them to breathe air. This evolutionary trait is important for their survival in warm, stagnant water which has low dissolved oxygen content. It also makes them powerful gamefish capable of engaging in long, protracted battles often lasting for several hours.

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Nicely done. Saltwater fly fisherman here who's obsessed with tarpon. The silver of a tarpon is like no other silver I've ever seen....

I wouldn't consider myself an expert here by any stretch, so consider these ideas a starting place - not your destination.

I've done it twice: once with a group of buddies via a package booked through one of the professional fly fishing travel agencies, and once solo where I booked everything directly.

About the agencies: I've traveled with Yellow Dog, Fly Travel, and Frontiers you various places in the past. I've always found them to be eminently professional operations. They're competent, friendly, thorough, and they'll do almost everything but pack for you. If you haven't been to a particular area before and/or aren't familiar with the gear you'll need and/or haven't done much international travel and/or don't have much time to invest in poring over maps and reviews and chasing guides who answer their phones every other week, they're a fantastic option. I think they're also great if you're trying to coordinate a group of busy folks in different places. That detail-oriented hand-holding isn't free, of course, but I do think you get what you pay for - they definitely work for their uplift. If you need those extra services to smooth out the rough edges of traveling abroad, it's money well-spent.

About booking it yourself: the first agency-booked trip helped enormously with geographic orientation (despite hours spent memorizing the landscape from satellite maps) and learning more about how the local guiding systems worked. I pretty much grilled our guide for details, mostly because I really am always interested in how those arrangements are structured - particularly how much of the thousands each foreign tourist spends ends up in the local economy. But that line of inquiry does usually also yield enough information to figure out how to bypass the agencies. Years spent living abroad and doing a lot of international travel for work have also made it easier for me to navigate in unfamiliar systems.

Upshot: if you're a seasoned traveler and experienced fisherman with knowledge of the destination, book it yourself. If this is your first time to Belize and you aren't familiar with either traveling abroad or the tarpon / permit / bonefish game, consider calling Yellow Dog and the others and talking it through with them. Most of the resorts work with multiple agencies, so you might be able to get a couple perspectives on the same destination.

Hope that helps!

Well done! I've been thinking about playing around with some old lines I've got stashed away and a few ideas like that. I think you've inspired me to get serious about it....


Are you a serious euro-style nymphing nerd who lives on the Front Range of Colorado and needs an excuse to go fishing and drink beer for free in early August? I might be able to help you.

I grew up in Denver and hammered the tailwaters hard from the time I could drive until a few years after college, but that was a full 20 years ago. I moved away in the late 90s, and since then I've mostly converted to the salt - although I go carping whenever I can't get to the coast. For both better and worse, my trout trips are few and far between these days.

As such, I pretty much missed the entire euro-nymphing trend, and I'm curious about it. I'll have a fairly flexible ten days in Denver during early August, and I'm planning to bring a long rod, some greasy sighters, a whack of heavy nymphs, and my trusty George Daniel book. I'm hoping to spend at least a couple days dynamically dredging while updating my aging memories of the Blue, the Dream Stream, Deckers, and Cheeseman.

I'd be happy to have some knowledgeable local company, preferably somebody willing to share a few entertaining fishing stories and some hard-earned ESN wisdom. I'll gladly cover beers and grub, and I'll try not to bore you with too much "in my day, sonny" drivel.

Anybody interested?

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Original Poster12 points · 2 months ago

My only response is a passage from Ted Leeson, a long time writer and avid flyfisherman.

"The craft of angling is catching fish. But the art of angling is the a receptiveness to these connections, the art of letting one thing lead to another until, if only locally and momentarily you realize some small completeness."

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Ted gets it. The Habit of Rivers has always been one of my favorite books.

Classy reply, by the way.

My dad's best friend was a gruff old geologist and a graceful fly fisherman, and he told wonderful stories. I idolized him, although I knew even then that most of his stories were embellished if not outright fabricated.

Somewhere around age 7 or 8 they were teaching me to use a compass for orienteering, and the old geologist went off on a minor did-you-know tangent about how scientists had found evidence that the north and south poles have switched multiple times...and that it was going to happen again. Soon. In fact, we're overdue.

That's all true, but either he neglected to add that polarity reversals happen on the scale of tens or hundreds of thousands of years, or he did and my adolescent head couldn't grasp it....because I checked my compass every damned night for like two fucking years to make sure the poles hadn't switched without me noticing.

Agreed with the other answers: it's completely normal and natural, and there are no structural benefits or disadvantages associated with gentle waves like that. If they affect the sound or maturation of the sound over time, it's probably incremental and would be extremely difficult to quantify.

A few really picky collectors get fussy about wanting perfectly straight grain, but usually only on pristine instruments that'll never get played anyway. If you're playing it, don't sweat it.

I actually really like those minor 'imperfections' in my instruments. They remind me that I'm playing something that took years to grow somewhere outside, that it was selected and shaped and assembled....not grown in a lab or fabricated in a factory.

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If you're interested in knives from knife import, send an email to Jon, he will be the best to assist you with what you're looking for. He has helped me in so many ways. For me, if I were to choose carbon, I would suggests stainless clad since you have to take into considerations that you may not always be able to wipe off the blade as much as you think. So it's best to avoid the rusting. I would look into Kintaro [known as Kanehiro on Chefknivestogo] as a work horse. Hope I help. Kanehiro/Kintaro


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Another vote for Jon at JKI. I've had great interactions with people at other sellers as well (like JNS and CTG), but Jon gave me a great deal of time and unvarnished advice, and he's clearly a student of the history and culture - and he cracks me up. Good luck!

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