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"Now Next time you close your eyes and picture the perfect man you can remember this speech and think of me" by areyouinsanelikeme in ChoosingBeggars

[–]flyryan 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Because he obviously doesn't want to date a fat chick because they aren't attractive. /s

I'm sure the irony is completely lost on him.

Not sure if this is entirely the right sub- blind man requesting woman housekeeper must wear a tank top... by jumpingnoodlepoodle in ChoosingBeggars

[–]flyryan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes they do. It's colloquial. They absolutely say "see". Deaf people also say they "listen" and "hear" what you're saying.

Mom freaks out on cop, all her kids try to beat cop up for trying to arrest mom by Zanowin in PublicFreakout

[–]flyryan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude.... You are arguing my point. A cop cannot use deadly force to prevent against things they don't know about. You think a cop can shoot an innocent person and get away with it by saying "they could have had a gun"?

Like 4 different cops in this thread have said the dude was way in the wrong. Why won't you listen to them if you won't listen to me?

And don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything of the sort. If someone has a gun and so much as reaches for it, the cop has every reason to shoot that person dead. You seem to think it's OK for a cop to shoot someone even if they have no evidence at all that the person is even armed just because they COULD be. That's crazy. There is very specific criteria for using deadly force. It's for defense. It's not for a cop to decide to do because he doesn't know if someone could be armed or not.

Those were the rules for me even when I was deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Answer me this... Do you REALLY think resisting arrest and fleeing are grounds for killing someone? Because that's the situation here. If so, maybe you should lobby for the punishment for those crimes to be life in prison or the death penalty like other crimes that typically meet use of deadly force criteria for cops.

Mom freaks out on cop, all her kids try to beat cop up for trying to arrest mom by Zanowin in PublicFreakout

[–]flyryan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You keep talking about all the things that COULD happen. You're making it very clear that you don't understand when it is appropriate for a cop to use deadly force. ANY situation involving a police encounter COULD turn bad. That doesn't authorize a cop to use deadly force. Shooting a weapon is ALWAYS considered use of deadly force. He used deadly force on a van occupied by an unarmed woman and 4 unarmed children. Do you really not understand how that's wrong?

Yes, the woman did all kinds of things and broke all kinds of laws. But she did not do ANYTHING that reached the level of justifying deadly force. Cops have TONS of tools for handling situations like that that are less than deadly force. He could have tazed her if he had a tazed. They could have ran her car off the road. They could have attempted a PIT maneuver. But the one thing that was NOT called for in this instance was deadly force.

Deadly force is ONLY to be used in self-defense or in the defense if someone else who's life is at risk.

This is Krypto. He is begging for some sweet chest scratches. by flyryan in shiba

[–]flyryan[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No. He's my substitution for owning dogecoin. Just as volatile though! ;-)

Mom freaks out on cop, all her kids try to beat cop up for trying to arrest mom by Zanowin in PublicFreakout

[–]flyryan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude... Read what I said... There were no guns in the vehicle. No drugs either. But even if that were the case (again, it wasn't), the cops wouldn't have known that at the time they drove off. A cop can't just shoot his weapon because of things that COULD be wrong. He has to have a lawful reason to discharge his weapon. This cop got FIRED for shooting at this car.

Unless they were shooting at the cop from the car or riding directly towards him trying to run him over, there is no reason for them to fire their weapon. Deadly force is only used to stop other deadly force.

Mom freaks out on cop, all her kids try to beat cop up for trying to arrest mom by Zanowin in PublicFreakout

[–]flyryan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes... It does. Does shooting at someone when you don't know if they are armed make sense to you? Is that how you think it should work? We should just kill people because they COULD be armed? Don't you see the problem here?

Even if they were armed, do you think that gives the automatic to fire at them? Having a gun isn't illegal. It's constitutionaly protected. A cop has to reasonably think they are about to be fired at. A person usually has to reach of their gun before a cop is in the right for shooting them.

Mom freaks out on cop, all her kids try to beat cop up for trying to arrest mom by Zanowin in PublicFreakout

[–]flyryan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude that is NOT how use of force works. She hadn't drove into oncoming traffic at high speeds. Even if she had, it was a vehicle full of kids. Regardless, how many high speed chases have you seen where the cops SHOOT at the car? NONE. Because it does not meet deadly force criteria. It's insanely stupid and unsafe and ends up risking the lives of innocent people.

Read down this thread. Multiple cops have talked about how crazy it was that the cop shot at the vehicle. He was even fired for it. You are wrong about this one. It's frankly messed up that you think this situation is worth killing her over (and potentially killing an innocent child in the process).

Mom freaks out on cop, all her kids try to beat cop up for trying to arrest mom by Zanowin in PublicFreakout

[–]flyryan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What are you talking about!? A cop should NEVER shoot at a car of unarmed civilians driving away from them. A cop is only supposed to use their weapon when there is a threat to life. How can you possibly say that they didn't have any other options?

Can we talk about the guy who got arrested for DUI in Nye County last night? by flyryan in livepd

[–]flyryan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What the fuck? I was just replying to your comment... Entitled snowflake? Tit for tat? You are the one making some pretty big assumptions here. I never said cops shouldn't lie and if you go through my comments on this thread I think you'll see that multiple times. You keep bending my issue here into things I'm not saying.

You seem to think that cops are above criticism. THAT is bullshit. Criticism about things like this is how things get better and how we get through divide that is a plague right now. I spent my career in the intelligence community and god knows we get a shitload of criticism. But, I would never call someone an entitled snowflake for having issues with the IC.

And just because I haven't posted in the subreddit doesn't mean I don't follow it. I'm a huge fan of the show and have literally seen every single episode. Even if I hadn't, I can't post about something I saw on it? That's some serious gatekeeping.

Can we talk about the guy who got arrested for DUI in Nye County last night? by flyryan in livepd

[–]flyryan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't care about the points. I agree they are pointless. I just thought it was funny that someone was so salty over the issue that they would go through all of my comments and downvote them.

Can we talk about the guy who got arrested for DUI in Nye County last night? by flyryan in livepd

[–]flyryan[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know that. I mod a few subreddits myself. ;-)

My comment was about me sitting at 0 on several comments that were similar to the one I just edited (that really make no sense to downvote). I was pointing out that one person had gone through and downvoted ALL of my comments because several comments like that were sitting at 0.

Can we talk about the guy who got arrested for DUI in Nye County last night? by flyryan in livepd

[–]flyryan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool. :-)

Edit: Haha wow. Now someone is just downvoting me just to downvote me. Salty.

Can we talk about the guy who got arrested for DUI in Nye County last night? by flyryan in livepd

[–]flyryan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Already did. :-) Just didn't want to make it public that I was doing that in case that wasn't allowed.

Can we talk about the guy who got arrested for DUI in Nye County last night? by flyryan in livepd

[–]flyryan[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I had a link posted but I had to remove it to keep the post up. :-/

Can we talk about the guy who got arrested for DUI in Nye County last night? by flyryan in livepd

[–]flyryan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I get they can lie. I'm just saying the lie wasn't warranted here. A cop needs to balance a lie against the impact it will have on public trust, especially when it's being broadcasted on national television. The lie in this case served no real law enforcement purpose. It actually pushed the suspect AWAY from taking the PBT which, as a person potentially on the road with him, I WANT him to take. Lastly, after the arrest is made, there is no real reason to continue to lie. At that point, you're JUST eroding public trust.

I'm sure the cop is a good guy and it's easy for me to quarterback an encounter from my couch but nobody gets better in these situations if we don't at least acknowledge that it could have gone better. This encounter made a LOT of people very uncomfortable and will make people more fearful of cooperating in the future for fear of being lied to about the consequences.

Can we talk about the guy who got arrested for DUI in Nye County last night? by flyryan in livepd

[–]flyryan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All of that is fine and I even agree with it. However, I still don't understand why he would deny saying those things after he arrested the guy.