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3 points · 1 day ago

Obviously a joke, but I'd be down for some rl br. Give us some weapons and lay out some boost in a city and we've got ourselves a nutty fight.

3 points · 1 day ago

In my experience, having a set team makes it harder for dedicated players to rank up. Solo queuing is more than viable.

well give me a single other reason this is the only one i could think of

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1 point · 2 days ago

Nooo I'm not saying you're stupid haha. It's more directed towards Psyonix. But they would have to do quite a bit of work to standardize at this point even though it's doable.

btw i just remembered where i saw your name you posted a post in the RLCoaching SubReddit offering coaching for high level players xD

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2 points · 1 day ago

That's me!

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2 points · 2 days ago

To be fair, I don't think that it makes sense to group fancy mechanics with offense and positioning/decision-making with defense, because it seems like that's what you're doing. I use air dribbles and ceiling shots pretty regularly in my games, but I use them primarily on my defensive half. It's rare for me to use those fancy mechanics for offensive plays unless the situation is just right or it's to set up a pass.

In my experience, players with good offensive positioning generally have good defensive positioning as well. Knowing how to rotate and create space, make smart decisions, and how to move off the ball in general is a skill that's needed on both sides of the pitch. The problem is that a mistake on defense results in a goal while a mistake on offense isn't immediately punishing and you neither gain nor lose anything from it. Offensive players have always gotten the glory because they deal with positives while defenders deal with negatives.

So, how do you practice defense outside of the game, mechanically? You can only do so much. The fact is that stupid goals happen because of poor positioning rather than good or bad mechanics and it's something that needs to be learned by simply playing the game. Perhaps you make more of a conscious effort than others, and that's great, but it likely means you're lacking in other areas versus players at your same rank, which is also fine. Knowing how to play to yours and your teammate's strengths is an important part of the game.

Still, the main difference between C2 and C3 is that consistent C3 players are the ones who have just began to stop allowing stupid goals in. Dumb defensive mistakes happen consistently throughout C2 and fade away in C3. It's a positioning and an awareness thing, plain and simple. People rotate into and directly away from the ball instead of creating space in the middle and they overcommit for balls as last man. They get impatient in goal, or drift too far forward. They don't rotate to the far post or they commit over their teammates. It's a long list and it doesn't click for most people until they learn to create space and transition quickly off the ball. I don't think I've ever seen a single player below C3 who is really consistent with it.

so you’re saying i still have another 3 ranks before i get teammates who understand what i figured out in challenger (started this game season 3)... fuck sake

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3 points · 2 days ago

No - you have another 3 ranks before you realize that everything you're doing now was wrong XD

100, Gold 2/3. 12 (deep voice tho)

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2 points · 2 days ago

Shit Shoot, there are really 12 year olds browsing here? I have to rethink every interaction I ever have on here again.

Yeah, the internet is a scary place, that being said just cause I said I was 12 doesn’t make me 12 I could be 14,15,etc

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1 point · 2 days ago

Yeah, well I'm a dolphin, so I'm not judging.

1 point · 2 days ago

Besides be whole witch hunting thing, keep in mind that:

(a) you have the ability to mute chat.

(b) these people want a response from you, so responding to them with anything other than silence is giving them the attention they're looking for and says something about your lack of self control, which a lot of people could use more of. If they get in your head, then you're letting yourself get mind-gamed, regardless of what they're saying.

(c) you don't want these people to get permanently banned because they can just get grab a new account and start where they left off. A permanent chat ban is a much better solution because it solves the primary problem while encouraging them to stay with their current account because they may have some ties to it.

(d) this person has no idea who you are or what you look like, so it's hard to be offended by anything personal, really, even though they might guess at something that hits close to home. Remember that they don't know that and just ignore, report, and move on.

And onto the whole witch hunting thing:

They may be flawed, but they're human. Who knows why they chose to go out of their way to spew hatred. You don't know what they're going through and, really, you should feel sorry for them. It's the internet and people release steam in the internet through anonymity to get through whatever they're dealing with in the real world. It's not an excuse for this behavior, but people do it. Regardless, starting a witch hunt is not an okay thing to do. They could get berated and harassed and you would end up being the asshole who puts all of the negativity onto someone who is already angry at the world and needs just the opposite. On top of that, you have to think about the possibilities, however small, that it was a one time mistake (again, not that it excuses the behavior), that they're friend was using their account, that they were hacked, etc. etc.

Report them, ignore them, and move on. Getting angry does nothing for you.

0 points · 2 days ago

Psyonix when asked about salty shore before it's release: "It's bright but comfortable".

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Hey guys, I think it's pretty self explanatory from the title, but there isn't a lot of coaching out there for high level players, so I'm looking to try and fill that void a little bit and offer my services.

My resume:

I ended last season GC in 3s, C3 in 2s, C2 in SS, and C1 in 1s. I've pretty much retired completely from ranked play for now, maybe playing a total of 5 days this current season. I did my placements for 3s the first week, ended up C3 div1, played strictly casuals for about 6 weeks before deciding to give it a go in ranks again, jumped straight to GC in one short session and then remembered why I stopped playing ranked when I became stressed about rewards, tilting pretty hard, and losing 11 in a row back down to C3 div3. I'm 4/10 with GC rewards this season and I haven't touched ranked since.

Not that any of that matters, but I just wanted to relieve some potential concerns anyone might have in maybe thinking I may not qualified. I do believe that I'm capable of coaching into at least low GC.

Anyway, I've been coaching for at least a year now and have done just about every rank you can imagine, the majority being in the D3 to C3 range. I've done dozens of reviews, perhaps into the triple digits, and I enjoy doing them. I've done a few full teams along the way.

If anyone is interested in getting some help for them-self or for their entire team, then feel free to leave me a message here or to private message me. My process generally revolves around replay analysis, but it can be whatever you want it to be. The one caveat I have these days is that I'm too lazy to do video reviews like I used to (recording video analysis and posting to YouTube). I can do text reviews no problem and have them done within 24 hours generally, and I do video reviews live with people through the discord screen share, which is generally a bit more useful than the video analysis anyway since you are there to comment and ask questions. I'm also pretty free to answer questions through mobile at any time you have them. The more motivated you are, the more I will be.

Looking forward to hearing from you guys.

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I’m an Xbox c2 but am planning on getting pc very soon, I’ll message you when I switch

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Original Poster1 point · 2 days ago

Sounds good, brother. Look forward to hearing from you.

Hi, I would really appreciate some coaching, I am currently barely champ2 in both 2s and 3s. I believe you could help me improve a lot about my decision making and my positionning. Pm me on here or on discord if you are interested in making me improve: Tommy B lft#6589

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Original Poster2 points · 2 days ago

Sending you a discord request now.

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So you’re admitting to using toxicity as a mind game to intimidate your opponent?

That ties in nicely with the fact that you can be banned for ‘unsportsmanlike conduct’

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3 points · 2 days ago

I've never seen proof that anyone has gotten banned for unsportsmanlike conduct.

I’ve gotten a few pop ups saying a user I reported was banned for unsportsmanlike behavior.

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1 point · 2 days ago

Good to know. I've never seen any reports of it happening, so it's nice to have a personal reference. Though I've no doubt it still needs a lot of work.

1 point · 2 days ago

The difference between C2 and C3 is super obvious: C3 is where stupid defensive mistakes pretty much stop happening whereas C2s are generally still a mess and make really bad defensive decisions as last man. If you want to stay in C3, you can't let in stupid goals anymore.

Original Poster1 point · 2 days ago

Alright, so my mechanics aren't the greatest, but I consider myself good at decision making. Will I be fine?

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1 point · 2 days ago

Mechanics play a role, but it's really hard to tell what people actually mean when they said they're bad at mechanics at any level. Not being able to do fancier moves is really no big deal and doesn't mean you're good or bad mechanically. Players who can execute a flawless air dribble may still be bad mechanically because they lack on other area, such as power hitting. My guess is that your mechanics are okay, and if you can not let easy goals in by making proper defensive rotations and decision-making then you'll be just fine. Easier said than done, but being able to do that and then to play offense in a way that doesn't result in pressure and instead focuses on creating opportunities for your team and rotating back for support is more than enough to get yourself up to C3. The jump to GC will require some better offensive creativity.

1 point · 2 days ago

It was confirmed that they will be their own playlist and that they will replace their unranked versions. So, everything will remain as is except those modes will now be ranked with their own MMR. The rewards you earn will be the same with the exception of the GC titles.

1 point · 2 days ago

Honestly, training is of course beneficial and I do recommend it if you have the time, but it's not really that important if you're regularly trying new things in-game. Your mechanics will develop just fine by playing the game so long as you're confident and creative. By all means, train, but a lot of people stunt their growth by overtraining rather than playing the game. Play the game, try new things, and if you do train the be sure it's repetitive to create muscle memory.

I also switched from PS4 to 60 Hz PC and the difference is night and day.

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1 point · 3 days ago

You must not have played on a monitor.

I did, the same 60Hz 1ms response time monitor. It was a Ps4 pro, too.

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1 point · 2 days ago

Well, I got nothing, then. I switched back and forth between pc and PS4 with no noticeable difference - often preferred PS4, though, for some reason - until I got the 144hz going. Input lag and everything was the same between the two systems.

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Every time I watch it I expect it to go differently

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Original Poster1 point · 3 days ago

Haha same.

Karius is that you?

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Original Poster1 point · 3 days ago

Hah. So many Karius references. Poor guy.

I fully agree with this and couldn't agree any more. In fact, I'd go as far to say it's also wise to have a person go for boost on the same side as the kickoff user (boost left if the kickoff player is left) and the cheater goes up forward and maybe slightly to the right. That way, the person on kickoff can put it behind him easier to give possession to the boost guy, and if he fails at doing that and it goes the other way, the cheating up player can take it from that side of the field.

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Original Poster1 point · 3 days ago

That's a really good point that I hadn't thought of. It's easier to lose it to your back side because you can easily create that angle with the side of your car, specifically from closer, diagonal kickoffs, and guarantee that the kicker comes out facing the side boost on the opposite side, leaving the other side boost for the cheater who can push up and apply that immediate pressure. I usually don't think about which boost I grab as the lone guy in the back, so this is good stuff.

I wonder if they moved to a beta-test server where new features could be a steam opt-in for a few days to check for these bugs. On the other side, that may split the player base for those few days... Then again, if they add a beta test item for each release, it would have a bunch of people playing on it to break the system and get their free candy.

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1 point · 3 days ago

I've been trying to argue exactly that for the past 2 years haha. I think Psyonix started that the test environment would be too much work, or something blah blah blah idk. They need a test environment. I remember when they released an"experimental update" to the goal post physics and it blew my mind a bit. I told them it was pretty irresponsible to do that and the responded that they would just change it back if it didn't work that well.

Tournaments had that beta test, so it's possible... even if it did require a couple gig download to switch between

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1 point · 3 days ago

Yep - I don't see why they couldn't do it. They're pretty clueless in a lot of ways.

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4 points · 3 days ago

I don't get it. What does 1v1 have to do 3v3? It's always baffled me.

Can't tell if your being serious or not lol, never can tell on reddit, but I'll give an explanation anyway whether you like it or not.

In the lower ranks such as bronze to mid platinum most people have not yet understood that 1v1 skill is different from 3v3 or 2v2 skill and as such think that a 1v1 is a way to prove they are better then someone. However, because the difference in skills used in 1s and 3s, someone could be lower in 1s than 3s or vice versa. This combined with the underdeveloped viewpoint on skills in different gamemodes leads to people believing that 1s is the indicator of skill as there is a heavy focus on mechanical/individual talent. These people who challenge opponents or even teammates to 1v1s are trying to prove that they have more individual skill than the other, while completely ignoring the skillset in 3s such as passing, field awareness, etc.

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1 point · 3 days ago

Hah, sorry, I get that it's hard to tell on here. I was serious, but not serious like that. And you're very nice for explaining that and you did quite a good job of it, if I might say so. It's just never made sense to me that people would challenge someone to a 1v1 based on a completely different game mode because it doesn't prove anything, as you explained. "I think you're bad at 3s, or maybe you were just mean to me, so I'll challenge you to a totally different game mode to exert my dominance, which will somehow mean something." But, no, it proves nothing about skill in 3v3. Im going to start challenging people to 3v3 whenever I lose 1v1s.

1 point · 3 days ago

Well, first of all, you're not actually better than them because you're playing like an idiot (no offense meant here, just being blunt... I've been there, too). People don't go for aerials or wall hits in 1s because it doesn't make sense to do so. If you don't score every time you go for one of those hits then you're passing then you're going to end up low on boost and way out of position while they have time to control the ball and dribble it in.

1s strategy isn't the same as 2s strategy and neither of those is the same as 3s strategy. I know plenty of people ranked higher than me in 2s who I would never let play with me in 3s because they're just not good enough and don't know how to play it. The same goes for 3s players who just aren't very good at 2s. You're thinking in terms of mechanical skill, but that's only part of the game. Strategy, positioning, decision-making, etc. all takes time to learn and master and you haven't done that in 1s.

Besides, mechanical skills utilized in 1s are far different than those utilized in 3s. Practicing one mode won't necessarily help you very much in the other and can actually potentially hurt you by altering the way you challenge.

In 1s, you don't need very good awareness because there is 1 other person on the field. In 3s, this is an essential skill.

In 1s, you can take your time dribbling and trying to flick ten ball. In 3s, you need to know that no one is on your back and your longest dribble should realistically be no more than a second or 2.

In 1s, you need to keep space tighter because the opponent won't just pass it to you when you create space. In 3s, you need to challenge and immediately rotate out, creating a lot of space in the process.

In 3s, you need to go up immediately for a ball in the air. In 1s, you rarely want to leave the ground unless you're sure of yourself.

In 1s, you generally have no need to defend the backboard. In 3s, it's necessary.

In 1s, you keep the ball close and low. In 3s, you aim to hit the ball high and hard.

You get the idea.

1 point · 3 days ago

Competitive is well-established and shouldn't be changed. I wouldn't mind a new kickoff strategy for some casual modes, though, or perhaps as modifiers for private matches. Kickoffs as they stand take an incredible amount of skill. It would be a shame to take them away.

16 points · 3 days ago

I think that any feature well-established in the current game shouldn't be removed and also that none should be added.

Well I can call it shady. Because the guy knew he was breaking the terms in which he agreed to. That's being shady. Whether or not the governing entity of such term chooses to immediately give a Cease & Desist or wait doesn't change anything.

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1 point · 3 days ago

Except we were never arguing the legality.

4 points · 3 days ago
  1. Rotate away from the ball. Don't drive towards it when you're going to defense and don't drive directly away from it either. Create that space.

  2. Any time you want to hit the ball, you should be considering 2 options. (1) if you see a teammate, hit t towards them. (2) if you don't see a teammate, hit then ball as high as you can down the field. Hit it towards the near corner if you plan on following it, the opposite corner if you plan on supporting.

That being said, power-hitting is the most important skill in the game. Work on making consistent, solid contact and focus on (1) to get proper approaches to do so.

Yes! Or avoid for the rest of the day....?

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3 points · 3 days ago

Seems a bit long, but I honestly don't see the big deal considering you're just choosing not to team up with someone. There is no reason they can't be matched up against you during all of this.

0 points · 3 days ago

Look, I get that racist and other derogatory terms are not okay to say, but I don't quite get why people get so offended by strangers shit talking them on the internet when they (probably) have no clue about your ethnicity or gender or what you look like. Oh, look, this kid/teenager/adult/senior citizen just called me a virgin. Okay. I have a coworker who gets super offended when anyone makes a joke about his mom. The thing is, the only jokes ever made about his mom have been fairly mild (a fat or dumb joke or something like that) and nobody has even seen what his mom looks like. This is also a dude who has made dead baby jokes. I don't understand people.

I understand that people might occasionally say things that happen to be triggers for people, especially in the midst of a stressful game, but I also don't understand why people don't just think it's sad and move on. Even someone with racist ideologies is a person, even though they're obviously flawed. Ban them from chat and leave it at that. I don't know anything about their lives and I don't want to make assumptions based on their angry little rants to a complete stranger in a game. Messed up or not, we all know what the internet is. Why prevent them from playing the game indefinitely on that account, especially when they can just buy a new account, ruin some people's games while they smurf back to where they were, and resume saying inappropriate shit. A chat ban would at least encourage them to keep playing on that same account due to items or rank or friends or whatever history they have with the added bonus of knowing that they can no longer freely chat with other people. They might actually learn the lesson that way, too.

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