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Sam Rockwell accidentally says "fuck" on SNL

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Original Poster391 points·3 months ago

I uploaded it here because I know NBC would have it taken down from youtube quickly, and for some reason r/videos doesn't allow Streamable anymore.

Why isn’t streamable allowed?

Dat big money yo.

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Reddit video

reddit video is the 2nd worst video player in existence, right next to Twitter's video player

right next to Twitter's video player

+1 for Instagram

Its 2018 and they still dont have a volume slider?

And what about a progress bar or a way to make it full screen? Worthless.

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You can usually do that with a computer too.

Yeah but it's more feasible to have a volume mixer on a computer instead of controlling everything with master settings.

+1 for Tumblr

No, honestly I think Reddit is by far the worst. I honestly don't even know how they fucked it up so bad. More than half the time it doesn't even work and there's just a small horizontal gray line where the video should be...

The entire point of reddit video is to become an un-hotlinkable way to get more people onto reddit, not be a good video player.

And I know reddit doesn't care but it's just made me stop sharing links with friends because I'd have to send them to an entire comment thread instead of just the video.

And nothing personal, but as much I enjoy this place some of yall are an embarrassment.

They need a way to share a v.reddit links that doesn't include the original thread. Maybe keep the side/top bars, just remove the title and comments.

I feel exactly the same way. Same reason I hate the reddit image links, too. I want to share it with my friends who don't use reddit, but most of them don't use reddit for a reason.

And nothing personal, but as much I enjoy this place some of yall are an embarrassment.

you should tell your friends that it's not you writing all of the comments

They bought the source code from real player.

Comment buffering...

Neither of which will allow me to play videos from my mobile app

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Man reddit video doesn't even work if you're using something other than the official reddit app.

Ah yes, the good old « Embrace, extend, and exterminate » at work.

Despicable, and really short sighted.

I'm using Relay for Reddit on Android and it loads reddit video among other things like gfycat, streamable etc. Not sure about iPhones though

They work on Sync for reddit

Narwhal likes it.

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Fucking hate Reddit video

Demoralized Moderator of r/videos, speaking officially16 points·3 months ago

This is not the reason. (We don't even use Reddit video) Basically it's because streamable was being used almost exclusively to freeboot content from YouTube and get paid. Spammers were downloading and reuploading millions of videos on it.

So block youtube too then because that shit happens way more on there...

Demoralized 3 points·3 months ago

It actually doesn't, and we have lots of tools built to combat it. Lots of deep learning bots and blacklists that the mods have spent hundreds of hours developing to counteract freebooting. YouTube isn't perfect, but it's much better than streamable was in this respect

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Original Poster2 points·3 months ago

I understand that, but in this instance I had to find a different site (until this one is maybe not allowed some day) because I know NBC would have removed the video from YouTube, and maybe even given me a copyright strike.

That's the main reason I use Streamable, to share little clips from tv shows or movies.

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Why would this be a problem to the reddit users? What's the benefit for the viewers on this site?

If its an ethical issue then I'd argue youtube as a company is far worse than a 'freebooter' and should be treated the same.

Seems this ban just makes this subreddit worse for its consumers for no benefit.

So why is YouTube still allowed?

Do you really not know the answer to that question?

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Source?

No source but just a guess

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3 points·3 months ago

I know it always runs like shit for me.

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doesn't allow Streamable anymore

Well that sucks. It's probably the best video sharing service out there right now. For some reason it works.

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thank you for being on the ball like a boss. you are hero. also youtube would've blocked it outside of america

Why the shit would you disallow streamable? To promote reddits awful native player? Let that convince us on its own.

Because some assholes jack youtube videos and upload them there so the original uploader doesn't get the credit? The same shit happens on youtube.

Streamable is just the best video player out there right now in my experience, disallowing it seems fucking stupid. I'd really like to know the reason.

um you can message the mods. Right over there ->

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It’s insane that it’s still so taboo to say a “bad word” on TV, especially late night. Let’s show gruesome violence and gore but lord knows what’ll happen if we say “fuck” or “shit” or, dare I say, show the human anatomy.

Just wait until Trump calls someone a "motherfucker" and it's plastered all over every news website and tv show.

If only he makes it a "mother fucking" because that will be some much better. Then maybe they can interview Samuel L. Jackson about it. "I'm sick of this mother fucking president."

Maybe he will put "Bad Mother Fucker" on the side of Air Force One.

"it's the nuclear launch button that says 'Bad Mother Fucker' on it"

No. The nuclear launch button specifically says:

Bigger than Kim Jung Un's. Just ask everybody. People say I have the biggest Nuclear Launch Button, Okay!

And that was the day that an intern got fired (or promoted?) for taking what the president requested literally.

No you are fucking, you are fucking.

Motherfucker? Hes going to say the N word into a mic within 3 months.

They already say that on CNN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuTReBPNx88

the FCC cant actually control what CNN says, they can cuss all they want. its cable.

Wait what?

FCC only enforces its indecency and profanity rules on conventional broadcast services only, not cable or satellite. However obscenity is prohibited at all times.

Conventional broadcast would include broadcast TV (like NBC, ABC, CBS) and AM/FM radio

Do the FCC's rules apply to cable and satellite programming? In the past, the FCC has enforced the indecency and profanity prohibitions only against conventional broadcast services, not against subscription programming services such as cable and satellite. However, the prohibition against obscene programming applies to subscription programming services at all times.

If you're curious what the difference between profanity and obscenity is... obscene speech as defined by the FCC is:

Generally speaking after midnight is a widely accepted time things to air Uncensored. Comedy Central usually does it, and used to have a specific block each night for Uncensored movies

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That was kind of touching.

54 points·3 months ago·edited 3 months ago

Yeah, I don't really understand what everyone else is saying, how is it disjointed? Because he had a few pauses? He was obviously making a very emotional and (imo super valid point) about how all the newest waves of immigrants are denigrated. I thought him struggling through it only made it more personal, but he said the n-word (even if he's literally defending black people) so I guess it's invalid.

Edit: also what he says is accurate. You can't even call this fake news or whatever. It's so annoying to me that people's criticism is that his eyes make him unhinged (????). What a load of bullcrap, the guy is making a powerful statement.

I don't get it, and can you correct me if I'm wrong here?

It seems Donald Trump allegedly (it is getting denied?) said “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”. This guy seems to simply answer the question: America is a better place for them. He doesn't really seem to disagree with the word shithole.

Is there perhaps context surrounding the question that I am missing that makes it clear it isn't a question?

And what's with his hate for Norwegians?

His point is that racial insults to Haitians are no different from insults to immigrants from other countries. He's saying he feels personally offended by the slur and thinks more Americans, especially immigrants or people descending from immigrants, should take it personally, too.

The stuff he said about Norway is because Trump has said positive things about Norwegian immigrants while at the same time being so negative about other immigrants. It's not that Mudd hates Norwegians.

What racial insults?

I'm out of the loop and not trying to be a dick.

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1 point·3 months ago·edited 3 months ago

He says that he is proud to be a shitholer, he's basically taking the term and making it his own and it seems people are literally not getting he's saying shitholer so many times because it's an [anaphora](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphora_(rhetoric) , by repeating it he emphasizes the term because he's stating the he's comfortable saying it, he identifies with it.

He's basically saying: "if these shitholers (if you haven't got it by now he denotes the absurdity of calling them "shitholers" in order to emphasize the next point) are so bad, then why did they work their ass off to pursue the American dream, asked for little in return, were treated so badly (and this is where he basically says how they were called and the co host doesn't get offended because he gets his point, I guess) and gave so much to their new nation? If this beautiful legacy makes him a "shitholer", then being a shitholer is actually a good thing.

Atleast that's my interpretation.

But did the (alleged?) Trump quote call people shitholers? Wasn't it calling the countries shitholes and not the people?

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honkey... its like hes trying to seem hip with don lemon

Yeah I think he's about to sit backwards in one of CNN's swivel chairs, but that won't end well either.

it's really the only big term of denigration for white people. It's not his fault that nobody takes it as seriously as the other slurs.

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This timeline is weird.

From which timeline do you hail, traveler?

0121 you are off mission.

PROTOCOL 2!

What the fuck did I just watch. What the fuck.

Can't you idiots understand context?

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I don't get why this is supposedly bad? He's literally talking about the impact of those racist words and how he disagrees with it. Are we seriously going to freak out because he used the word to purposefully shock us?

i don’t understand either. he used the derogatory slang of like 4 different kinds of people, even his own race.

He's a good man, knows when to let loose the words.

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Ya he is using the word to show us why it was a shitty thing to do by classifying people on racial terms, but people hear it and just assume racism without actually looking at the context.

Wait, what? Were people actually freaking out about this? God damnit if so. This is language with a purpose, and it's effective. People need to realize that he's speaking in this way so that they wake the fuck up.

I generally enjoy Mudd's contributions on CNN. Personally I know he means well, but this segment and the segment he had yesterday with Wolf along the same lines just came off disconnected. I know what he was trying to say, but the journey backtracked a few times and I left awkward and a little uncomfortable.

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Man, as a white dude it blows my mind how much that word spoken by another white dude bites my soul. It wasn't said in anger, it wasn't said as a form of repression, but wow.

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Is there a betting pool for this?

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It’s insane that it’s still so taboo to say a “bad word” on American TV

Fixed that for you

The FCC does not give out fines for bad words for broadcasts between 10pm and 6am since even they agree that there are few to no children watching at that time https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/obscenity-indecency-profanity-faq

But the networks still agree voluntarily that they will not air bad words. Comedy central always airs south park episodes with cursing after 10pm but still limits the curse words they are allowed to say such as allowing shit but not fuck

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12 points·3 months ago

I think it's just funny that someone said something that he wasn't supposed to according to the rules. I'm from a place where swearing is perfectly acceptable on TV post-watershed but still found it funny in the way I find a blooper funny.

Additionally I sort of understand the priorities - most kids won't emulate gruesome violence and gore they see in TV / video games but they will swear a lot. I still think it's unnecessary censorship though, parents should decide what their kids watch not the broadcasters.

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2 points·3 months ago

I think it's just funny that someone said something that he wasn't supposed to according to the rules. I'm from a place where swearing is perfectly acceptable on TV post-watershed but still found it funny in the way I find a blooper funny.

it’s weird (well, not really) that so many people on here are struggling with the very simple concept of “normal people think gaffes are funny”

This is why I love British TV, the "fucks" are so natural and not bleeped out and it's all hilarious.

Isn't shit allowed on TV now?

For network television, it depends on the time of day. The FCC allows profane language between 10pm and 6am (when children are presumably asleep). Cable television, on the other hand, is not governed by the FCC and is actually allowed to air whatever they like, but end up complying with FCC rules anyway to appease advertisers.

They say "shit" all the time on cable networks -- not even the premium channels. Mr Robot regularly gets away "fucks" and even "cunty" once or twice. It's just the big four networks that are scared of being un-PC.

Not quite the same, but CNN has been saying "shithole" about 10,000 times an hour since Friday.

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Source?

Come watch some Danish TV. We'll say what we want on TV. :P

The reason is because its BROADCAST TV. Anyone with a receiver can hear it. AS such, the government (and most people) feel that it should have some rules. SNL can swear on cable all they want, they cant swear on broadcast TV.

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234 points·3 months ago·edited 3 months ago

How is "Fuck" still considered so taboo? Haven't we been desensitized to fuck yet?

I said, "that sucks" to a teacher in grade school and got sent home, maybe 3rd grade.I wonder what it takes now.

I dropped the f-bomb in front of the student teacher in 4th grade and I got recess taken away for 2 weeks.

Would have killed to have been sent home rather than have my recess taken away.

A friend and I were showing the new kid around school when we go to the gym with the kickass gym teacher.

Friend says jokingly to the newbie that this teacher is a real Fun Sucker.

I say "Yeah, she really is a Sun Fucker. Why is everyone staring at me? She is a Sun Fucker! At times..." Took me about 6 more minutes to realize what I was done.

Mom says my tongue was moving too fast in front of my eye-teeth, and I couldn't see what I was saying.

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I remember the first time I told someone to "suck my dick" in an argument at recess when I was in 3rd or 4th grade. Was told to sit in the corner for the rest of the class. This was public school in a decent area but my class was always some of the worst kids so that was relatively mild. In 11th grade I spelled fuck out loud and got an in school suspension. That was at a private catholic school.

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Can't even say damn anymore. Was told to watch my mouth after saying something like "Damn, you got really lucky there!" while playing card games with a friend.

“But it’s in the Bible tho”

What do you mean "anymore"?

Has it ever been okay to swear in class?

In 6th grade upon returning to class from a music lesson I said to my friend "I suck at singing" and the teacher heard it and sent me to the office to be paddled. They called my mom and she told them to fuck off with that bullshit, so nothing came of it, but what kind of virgin mind do these teachers have?

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It's hilarious how disconnected television is. Most kids watch Youtube, I would probably ballpark 90%+ of American kids get most of their entertainment from Youtube, where it's free reign to say whatever you want. They've heard "fuck" more times than you can count, and they definitely say it when they're not at home.

As a working professional in my late thirties, I'm always surprised by some reactions from adults when they hear a curse word. And just yesterday some kids (early 20's) were blocking our driveway, my GF called them idiots during the exchange and they started yelling at her to not cuss at them... Really? I can't believe how different young millennial mentality is vs old millennial mentality.

Apparently fucking not

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A Brief History of the Word 'F*ck' on Saturday Night Live

From 2011, so they may have missed some since then.

As a kid then I especially remember Charles Rocket losing his job on SNL over this.

And sadly he ultimately committed suicide by slitting his own throat.

Yeah, that was very sad. I though he was good on SNL, was sad to see him discarded and have his career thrown under the bus, like he was just some member of a failed temporary regime change.

Fuck I thought you were joking.

Rockwell is one of the greatest modern American actors.

He's great in this film clip too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH5L4qTVsTk

He is such a dreamboat

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Have you seen Three Billboards yet?

And one of the best songwriters of the '80s

5 points·3 months ago·edited 3 months ago

TIL that this song isn't Micheal Jackson

Edit: nvm

MJ sings in the chorus.

Well MJ did sing in it - the most memorable part...

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2 points·3 months ago

He's straight up brilliant. First film I saw him in was The Green Mile and he's been just as good in every part I've seen him play since. Dude has phenomenal range.

I feel like he always plays the same character though

lol, 2 comments above you “he has phenomenal range”

I mean, I'm all ears, I've seen him in:

Moon

The Way, Way Back

3 Billboards

7 Psychopaths

Matchstick Men

...and he pretty much just plays the same kind of char in every one

In what world he is the same character in 7 psychopaths, The Green mile and Frost/Nixon?

i’ve seen moon, was pretty good! haven’t seen the others or i could probably discuss Rockwell’s acting w u:/

all the others are good imo, but Matchstick Men is probably the most underrated imo because of all the Nick Cage hate, came out a long time ago but still holds up

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Why is it still such a big deal in America? You have some weird double standards over there.

We're quite the mess lately.

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Did they edit out the "fuck"? Couldn't even tell where it was.

Yeah they definitely did.

NZ, Aussie and UK TV is full of swearing. Like, even during daytime shows lol.

Not to mention the news...

https://youtu.be/EmYwBHooA_M

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Same here in Finland. Really not that big of a deal. Silly muricans.

talked to him on line at a caffe bene in nyc. cool dude.

Question: Does NBC have to fess up the FCC fine now, or does Rockwell have to?

Also, do these shows not have a dump button like radio does?

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in the u.s.? I've never heard uncensored swears on network tv or radio late at night

This is more of an issue for getting/retaining sponsors for your show. It’s happened in the past a few times on SNL and to my knowledge the FCC has never gotten involved. Not sure if they’ve ever lost sponsors.

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I remember when I was young Comedy Central used to show movies uncensored late night during what was called "The Secret Stash." I think nudity was still censored, but all the curse words or middle fingers were still there. It was super fun watching those movies after midnight.

Well yeah on cable tv, like FX and their almost annoying over use of the word "shit". but nbc is different i think.

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3 points·3 months ago

According to this Washington Post article, network TV is regulated between the hours of 6am - 10pm.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/03/29/is-there-anything-you-cant-say-on-tv-anymore-its-complicated/?utm_term=.6e3b5b01828e

Unlike cable, broadcast networks face some FCC restrictions, as the result of a 1978 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that said the agency could monitor for obscenity between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. The FCC defines profanity as language that’s so “grossly offensive” to “members of the public” that it becomes a “nuisance.” Even by that vague definition, language deemed “grossly offensive” a decade ago would barely warrant a raised eyebrow these days.

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I know comedy central used to go uncensored at night on the weekends.

it's after 10pm, swear words are allowed

Not on the west coast...

SNL isn't broadcast before 10pm on the West Coast.

It might be narrowcasted to you, though...

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God...why do people care about "bad" language still? It's made up, man. It's MADE UP.

Isn't everything "made up"?

Every word is made up what are you talking about

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isn't the idea that anything is objectively bad made up

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Been liking this dood since Charlie's Angels.He seems genuinely pissed here.

Yeah, saw that and try to rewind with my xfinity to record it. not dice

Oh no, a naughty word.

Good.

SNL viewership would skyrocket if the FCC regulations were modernized. I’m with the others; you form an unhealthy society if we can be subject to gruesome violence daily on television but not curse words or nudity.

And it's not like this a children's show. It's late at night. They had entire skits of an incestuous family kissing each other as graphically as possible. Someone getting their head cut off with non-stop blood. Funny as fuck, but come on...

SNL can do whatever they want. They CHOOSE not to swear.

According to the FCC: "Indecent and profane content are prohibited on broadcast TV and radio between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m."

SNL airs after this time, and therefore is not subject to this rule. The choice to exclude profanity rests with NBC.

It’s already damaging society. It just continually blows my mind that we are totally okay with subjecting children to gore and violence and killing and torture, but heaven fucking forbid your kid hears a naughty word or sees a titty. Repression like that just isn’t healthy. Makes people feel like they own body is some bad thing.

Oh no stop the presses....... /s

Actually who gives a fuck anymore? We all need to grow up. Content is now made available in a way where adults can control when and where they watch it and with whom. This babying by the FCC is no longer necessary.

You should hear 6th graders talking with their friends

so how is sam's snl debut going thus far op? good, bad, so-so?

Original Poster15 points·3 months ago

I only saw the opening monologue aside from this. It was ok. Sam pointing out that everyone knows him as "that guy" from "that movie", which is probably really accurate since he's not a super A-list celeb and is usually a secondary character.

(also I found it funny since his name is literally "Guy" in Galaxy Quest.

How is Rob from Glory Daze not on the welcome mat of every American home?

OH NO!!!!!!!!!

Imagine how much funnier SNL would be with swear words.

Probably not much. The material itself has to be funny.

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I thought it was on purpose, like it was written in the script that way. Wasn’t that the joke, that a kid’s show would have the F-word in it?

so good in 3 billboards

And the Washington Post just printed the word Shithole on their front page because the US President labeled half the world as one. I think we've blown well past this being a significant concern...

SNL said "shithole" multiple times last night.

"Fuck" is on a higher tier though.

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For a european its still hard to understand that saying "fuck" on TV is a big no-go but having several deadly guns at home is considered ok.

Saying "fuck" on live TV?

That's a paddlin'.

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watching this on NBC replay rn.

Def didn't hear this on there. Thanks for reupping the video!

The gasps in the crowd lol. IIRC, this is how Jenny Slate got canned from SNL.

They don't say fuck on SNL?

this is so cringey. look how slow the actors are to react.

Upvote for not piss poor quality video. Thanks.

I fucking love Sam Rockwell

rockwell is the man

Fuck

So does this mean he will be banned? I know that cast members have lost their job for saying this.

LMAO

tried well to cover

trying hard to cover

You can't be this fucking stupid

they are all covering him

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