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[–]Arva0006 109 points110 points  (5 children)

I’m shocked putting a hashtag on the busses didn’t work!

[–]rbevans[Steele Creek][S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I thought that would've sealed the deal.

[–]McLirium 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Hey now - I'm sure a consultant got paid good money to think of that!

[–]Mason11987 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Eh, that's cheaper than subsidizing amazon.

[–]justeatquichealready 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Randomly met the consultant that came up with the hashtag... at a free legal consultation where he was trying to figure out how to hold the city accountable for the good money he was promised but never paid.

[–]ProbablyRickSantorumHuntersville -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Being in standstill traffic on 485, taking 1h25 min to travel what takes 25 minutes during non-rush hour traffic, and seeing those damn billboard about bringing Amazon here was laughably unbelievable.

[–]TACODAN 63 points64 points  (14 children)

I don't really mind Charlotte not making the cut. Charlotte is growing plenty fast right now without Amazon, and I don't think this will change the city's trajectory. Seeing that Raleigh and Nashville made the cut is sort of telling, however. I think that shows that Charlotte is lagging in this region (at least that is the current perception) when it comes to attracting young tech talent.

[–]rbevans[Steele Creek][S] 32 points33 points  (6 children)

The current infrastructure here is already busting so adding 50K + families it would've been overwhelming for the city.

[–]caller-number-four[Mountain Island] 31 points32 points  (5 children)

Heck, the city can't support anymore toilets in south end now!

[–]420Phase_It_Up 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Wait, what is going on in South End?

[–]justwanttolurk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They don't have the infrastructure needed to build all of the projects on the horizon.

[–]AppleBytes 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The city is falling all over its self to sellout to corporations, but can't build the needed infrastructure nearly fast enough to keep up with demand right now.

[–]Luffyy97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is all of America. America has a huuuggeee infrastructure problem. There’s some pretty great documentaries out there on the subject

[–]needlessdefianceUniversity 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I feel like between all 3 cities, where we really lag behind is very good universities. If Amazon is going to come in and hire “50,000” people (which I’ll believe that when I see it), most will probably be cheap and fresh-out-of-college. They can’t afford to relocate anywhere near that number, so having places that are churning them out on a yearly basis is important to a successful HQ2.

[–]StillCantCode 1 point2 points  (5 children)

While I agree Fuck UNC Charlotte, the UNC system is still the best public university system in the US. Charlotte is well within feeding range for UNC and State

Go Pack.

[–]dinnerthief 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You know that all public universities in NC are part of the UNC system right? ECU, NC state, App.. all are UNC schools.

[–]needlessdefianceUniversity 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Wow, I’m always fascinated by the “holier-than-thou” attitude NC State fans have when their school is not much better than UNC Charlotte, App, or ECU.

[–]StillCantCode 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Because NCSU has admission standards.

[–]Luffyy97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

UNCC has no admission standards, but I believe the quality of education is very similar. Im in the same program as my buddy at State and there is very little he has covered that I haven’t. Not to mention we’ve had far more hands on projects

[–]needlessdefianceUniversity -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If that’s what you need to tell yourself, then sure.

[–]McLirium 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Kind of interesting that 1/4 of the finalists represent 2 areas. You have Montgomery County, MD, DC, and NoVa. Then you have Newark, NJ and NYC.

It's easy to say "well, Charlotte really has problems x, y, and z." But are housing prices not a massive issue in places like DC or NYC? Infrastructure not busting at the seams in places like Austin? None of these places are perfect.

Definitely a bit bummed. Hopefully Charlotte will do something to be known as something other than a financial hub - which seems to be slowly getting chipped away as is.

[–]bluetick_ 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Amazon doesn’t care about housing prices. That’s for the residents to figure out.

[–]mjedmazga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Amazon is a business, so at least on paper in the short term, it makes sense for them to go with whomever offers them the best incentives. Charlotte had a generous package without being ankles behind head like the New Jersey offering is.

But you are correct, for the people who will relocate specifically for this sort of job, would I rather live in Newark or in Raleigh/Charlotte or even Columbus, OH? Do you even need to ask? Amazon knows the people will want the work, but at what cost?

Will be interesting to see where it ends up. I'm not too terribly upset that Charlotte didn't make the cut.

[–]anonkraken 40 points41 points  (5 children)

I think this a good juncture to slow down and really reflect on what Charlotte is as a city and what we want it to be. I saw a lot of my peers get really fired up about HQ2 without much thought or comparison. I was definitely excited by the prospect, but never thought it could happen. Seeing other southern cities on the list like Raleigh, Nashville, and Atlanta makes it abundantly clear that we lack the cultural and workforce chops to compete for the “hottest” tech businesses. However, we continue to be a great cultural fit for banks, storage facilities, drunk-golf, and Applebees.

[–]needlessdefianceUniversity 12 points13 points  (2 children)

My thought through this whole thing has been: “Look, I would love Charlotte to get it, but it will probably be Atlanta.”

Also, your last sentence is probably the truest thing ever written on this subreddit. Except for “Charlotte is the Applebee’s of cities.”

[–]T_DMac 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sheesh, the Applebee's of cities? I didn't think it was that bad here.

[–]needlessdefianceUniversity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, at least we’re not Chili’s (Raleigh).

[–]SirRubsalot 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Great News

[–]caller-number-four[Mountain Island] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yay! Great news!

[–]Embezzling_Bacon 13 points14 points  (6 children)

Atlanta and the the state of GA are going to make the dumbest deal ever in the history of corporate incentives to win this.

[–]rustyshakelford 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hasn't NJ already pledged like $2 billion in incentives?

[–]mjedmazga 5 points6 points  (0 children)

New York state: hold my beer!

[–]CharlotteHebdo 2 points3 points  (2 children)

At least it'll be for Amazon, not something stupid like a stadium.

[–]rustyshakelford 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Well they already subsidized the new Falcons stadium to the tune of $700 million

[–]iccccceman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hotel/motel tax baby

[–]StillCantCode -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Forgive me if I don't shed a tear for Fulton and Cobb county

[–]Mgnickel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We gotta improve our “Cultural Edginess”. Let’s get on that.

[–]saynotopulp 2 points3 points  (3 children)

no Amazombies in CLT?

That's not entirely bad considering the sweatshop work culture Amazon has

[–]StillCantCode -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

You know Amazon has 2 fulfillment centers here, don't you. Where the real sweatshop work happens.

This is a corporate HQ, where lots of shrimpy nerds who couldn't hope to keep up with prime quotas would be having meetings to increase that quota.

[–]saynotopulp 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Guess you haven't read what it's like to work at Amazon corporate.

There's a reason why they call them Amazombies in Seattle

[–]StillCantCode 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because everyone from Seattle is a zombie

[–]mazman34340 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great news and all but if Atlanta gets it, I’m not sure if I will cry.

[–]WealthyMind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so very sad. It would have made Charlotte a world class city